Occasionally I go back and watch this video. And then I cry a little bit because 280 North got swallowed up by Motorola and to this day no one really knows exactly what became of them.
偶尔我会回去看这个视频。然后我哭了一会儿，因为280 North公司被摩托罗拉吞并了，直到今天，没有人确切地知道他们后来怎么样了。
I know that there was something called "Greenhouse" for SproutCore that purportedly did something similar. But what with SproutCore's lead developer getting hired by Facebook and SproutCore itself turning into Ember.js, I'm not really sure if Greenhouse ever made it out alive.
我知道SproutCore有一个叫做“温室”的东西，据说也有类似的东西。但随着SproutCore的首席开发人员被Facebook聘用，SproutCore也变成了烬。js，我不确定温室是否活着。
So -- are there any tools that pick up where Atlas left off?
那么，有什么工具可以帮助我们找到阿特拉斯留下的东西吗?
2 个解决方案
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tl;dr: There are two choices: Dashcode or Cappucino, where the GUI solution seems to be building your UI in Xcode (Interface Builder) and exporting it to Cappucino. This solution seems to be supported by the core Cappucino team. Atlas and Greenhouse are dead.
tl;dr:有两种选择:Dashcode或Cappucino，其中GUI解决方案似乎正在用Xcode(接口构建器)构建UI，并将其导出到Cappucino。这个解决方案似乎得到了核心的Cappucino团队的支持。阿特拉斯和温室死了。
The rest of this response consists of quotes and links supporting the above conclusion.
此响应的其余部分由支持上述结论的引号和链接组成。
I've got the same question and have done some research.
我也有同样的问题，并且做了一些研究。
There are three possible frameworks where such a tool could be possible. Dashcode, Greenhouse and Atlas. Atlas is dead, Greenhouse never seemed to be more than just an experiment.
有三种可能的框架可以使用这种工具。Dashcode、温室和阿特拉斯。阿特拉斯死了，温室似乎只是一个实验。
Dashcode is still being maintained. It is a really good tool, and the only platform I've found that allows building Mobile apps as well as Web Apps at the same time, from the same code base. (A lot of the mobile app builders, like titanium, phonegap, etc, seem to focus only on mobile, not building for both the desktop browser and the mobile device.)
Dashcode仍然在被维护。这是一个非常好的工具，也是我发现的唯一一个可以同时从相同的代码库构建移动应用程序和Web应用程序的平台。(许多移动应用开发商，比如titanium、phonegap等，似乎只关注移动应用，而不是同时开发桌面浏览器和移动设备。)
Dashcode is being revved every time Apple releases a new version of Xcode. Further, apple is doing continuous work in this area-- for instance, the iAds Producer is really a super- souped up dashcode. Further, iBooks Author is also very much like dashcode. Both of which are specific tools for specific limited target products, but both have javascript frameworks and at least some GUI support.
每次苹果发布新版Xcode时，Dashcode都会被激活。此外，苹果公司正在这方面做着持续的工作——例如，iAds的生产商确实是一个超级市场的dashcode。此外，iBooks的作者也非常像dashcode。它们都是特定目标产品的特定工具，但都有javascript框架和至少一些GUI支持。
Producer is really slick, though its focused on making "flash" like ads with javascript.
制作人真的很狡猾，尽管它专注于制作像“flash”一样的带有javascript的广告。
Dashcode has not been majorly updated for quite awhile, so it might be on the way out, but it is still a viable tool.
Dashcode已经有一段时间没有被大量更新了，所以它可能已经过时了，但它仍然是一个可行的工具。
The 280 North guys don't seem to work for motorola anymore (boucher at least works for stripe now) and all work on Atlas has stopped.
280名北方人似乎不再为摩托罗拉工作了(鲍彻至少现在为stripe工作了)，所有关于Atlas的工作都已经停止。
The "officially recommended" solution seems to be XcodeCapp Which, near as I can tell, is built into Cappuciono now. "Best of all, the new XcodeCapp application automatically creates an Xcode project out of your Cappuccino project and lets you place UI components with ease." (from over a year ago, when they could have mentioned Atlas.)
“正式推荐”的解决方案似乎是XcodeCapp，据我所知，XcodeCapp现在已经内置在Cappuciono中。“最棒的是，新的XcodeCapp应用程序会自动地从Cappuccino项目中创建一个Xcode项目，并允许您轻松放置UI组件。”(从一年多前开始，他们本可以提到阿特拉斯。)
Here's some references to it, including a recent saying it had been fixed for Xcode 4.4 (which was released this summer, with 4.5 being the current release.)
这里有一些对它的引用，包括最近说它已经修复了Xcode 4.4(它是今年夏天发布的，目前的版本是4.5)。
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/objectivej/mRMiLTP2Yh8
https://groups.google.com/forum/ # ! / objectivej / mRMiLTP2Yh8话题
Also, this next link is to a site with some great tutorials, and they assume you're using Xcode: http://www.cappuccino-project.org/learn/tutorials/advanced-hello-world-2/
另外，下一个链接是一个有一些很棒的教程的站点，他们假设您使用的是Xcode: http://www.cappuccino-project.org/learn/tutorials/advanced-hello-world-2/。
Here's an older blog post about the situation: http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2011/11/16/cappuccino-0-9-5/
这里有一篇关于这种情况的老博客:http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2011/11/16/cappuccino-0-9-5/
Which contains this in the comments: "Only the people who own the Atlas project can make any statements about it, and unfortunately we're just not those people. We're the Cappuccino core developers and we manage the open source project Cappuccino. Atlas was a commercial product created by a company that doesn't exist anymore.
在评论中包含了这一点:“只有拥有Atlas项目的人才能对此发表任何声明，不幸的是，我们并不是这些人。”我们是卡布奇诺的核心开发者，我们管理着开源项目卡布奇诺。Atlas是一家已经不复存在的公司创造的商业产品。
That said, don't worry about it, really. The Interface Builder integration is awesome and a very complete solution. And beyond that, you can write apps perfectly fine without any GUI editor at all. Or you could even write your own editor in Cappuccino. You've got a huge amount of possibilities and power at your disposal, so go out and build a cool app."
也就是说，别担心，真的。接口构建器集成非常棒，是一个非常完整的解决方案。除此之外，无需任何GUI编辑器，您就可以完美地编写应用程序。或者你甚至可以在卡布奇诺写自己的编辑。你有大量的可能性和力量在你的支配下，所以走出去，建立一个很酷的应用。
And also: "The new way of converting xibs to cibs automatically is the shiny new XcodeCapp application which you will find in /usr/local/narwhal/packages/cappuccino/support/XcodeCapp.app. That either struck us as an intuitive and easy to find path, or we didn't have time to make an easier one. ;)"
而且:“自动将xibs转换为cibs的新方法是闪亮的新XcodeCapp应用程序，您可以在/usr/local/narwhal/packages/cappuccino/ support/xcodecapp中找到它。”这要么让我们觉得这是一种直观的、容易找到的路径，要么我们没有时间做一个简单的路径。,)”
Also, this summary by Antoine Mercadal :
同时，安托万·麦卡达尔总结道:
"Atlas is a closed source software. It was originally built by the 280N guys, and you may or may not know the history, but the point is Atlas is more likely dead. We, the Cappuccino community, cannot do anything about it, unfortunately. Complaining about Atlas here is like complaining on the W3C website about IE: it doesn't make sense.
Atlas是一个开源软件。它最初是由280N人建造的，你可能知道也可能不知道历史，但重点是阿特拉斯很可能已经死了。不幸的是，我们，卡布奇诺社区，对此无能为力。在这里抱怨Atlas就像在W3C网站上抱怨IE:它没有意义。
I personally paid for the Atlas beta, and I develop all my interfaces (about 30 big cibs) with it. I was also very disappointed by the bad health of Atlas. That's the price you have to paid for using proprietary beta software: shit happens.I spent a week rebuilding all my UI under IB. It was a pain and I drank a lot of coffee during this week, but it actually really worth it. The result is just awesome.
我个人为Atlas测试版付费，我用它开发了我所有的界面(大约30个大型cibs)。阿特拉斯的健康状况也让我非常失望。这就是你使用专有测试软件所要付出的代价:该死的事情发生了。我花了一个星期在IB下重建我所有的UI，这很痛苦，这周我喝了很多咖啡，但这真的很值得。结果真是太棒了。
The support of Cappuccino by IB (with XcodeCapp) is now way beyond Atlas has never been. And the future is now guaranteed because XcodeCapp is a part of Cappuccino, nib2cib is a part of Cappuccino, both of them are Open Source, and nobody will never be able to "shut them down".
IB(与XcodeCapp)对卡布奇诺(Cappuccino)的支持，现在已远远超出Atlas的范畴。因为XcodeCapp是卡布奇诺的一部分，nib2cib是卡布奇诺的一部分，两者都是开源的，没有人能够“关闭他们”。
Atlas was a young product, Cappuccino was also a young product and like every community-based projects, all the actors/tools/members need to be "calibrated" and need to experiment several things. I think it's now done, and that's why we're approaching the 1.0.
Atlas是一个年轻的产品，Cappuccino也是一个年轻的产品，就像每个基于社区的项目一样，所有参与者/工具/成员都需要“校准”，并需要进行一些实验。我想现在已经完成了，这就是为什么我们接近1.0的原因。
This release is awesome, there are tons of fixes and new features, that is what we should talk about in this thread :)"
这个版本很棒，有大量的修复和新特性，这就是我们在这篇文章中应该讨论的:
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Nib2Cib has existed since before Atlas. It lets you build your UI in interface builder, and has recently become much better. The latest version of Capp includes a tool that automatically runs the converter for you when you save a xib/nib.
Nib2Cib在阿特拉斯之前就存在了。它允许您在interface builder中构建UI，并且最近变得更好了。Capp的最新版本包含一个工具，当您保存一个xib/nib时，它会自动为您运行转换器。
#1
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tl;dr: There are two choices: Dashcode or Cappucino, where the GUI solution seems to be building your UI in Xcode (Interface Builder) and exporting it to Cappucino. This solution seems to be supported by the core Cappucino team. Atlas and Greenhouse are dead.
tl;dr:有两种选择:Dashcode或Cappucino，其中GUI解决方案似乎正在用Xcode(接口构建器)构建UI，并将其导出到Cappucino。这个解决方案似乎得到了核心的Cappucino团队的支持。阿特拉斯和温室死了。
The rest of this response consists of quotes and links supporting the above conclusion.
此响应的其余部分由支持上述结论的引号和链接组成。
I've got the same question and have done some research.
我也有同样的问题，并且做了一些研究。
There are three possible frameworks where such a tool could be possible. Dashcode, Greenhouse and Atlas. Atlas is dead, Greenhouse never seemed to be more than just an experiment.
有三种可能的框架可以使用这种工具。Dashcode、温室和阿特拉斯。阿特拉斯死了，温室似乎只是一个实验。
Dashcode is still being maintained. It is a really good tool, and the only platform I've found that allows building Mobile apps as well as Web Apps at the same time, from the same code base. (A lot of the mobile app builders, like titanium, phonegap, etc, seem to focus only on mobile, not building for both the desktop browser and the mobile device.)
Dashcode仍然在被维护。这是一个非常好的工具，也是我发现的唯一一个可以同时从相同的代码库构建移动应用程序和Web应用程序的平台。(许多移动应用开发商，比如titanium、phonegap等，似乎只关注移动应用，而不是同时开发桌面浏览器和移动设备。)
Dashcode is being revved every time Apple releases a new version of Xcode. Further, apple is doing continuous work in this area-- for instance, the iAds Producer is really a super- souped up dashcode. Further, iBooks Author is also very much like dashcode. Both of which are specific tools for specific limited target products, but both have javascript frameworks and at least some GUI support.
每次苹果发布新版Xcode时，Dashcode都会被激活。此外，苹果公司正在这方面做着持续的工作——例如，iAds的生产商确实是一个超级市场的dashcode。此外，iBooks的作者也非常像dashcode。它们都是特定目标产品的特定工具，但都有javascript框架和至少一些GUI支持。
Producer is really slick, though its focused on making "flash" like ads with javascript.
制作人真的很狡猾，尽管它专注于制作像“flash”一样的带有javascript的广告。
Dashcode has not been majorly updated for quite awhile, so it might be on the way out, but it is still a viable tool.
Dashcode已经有一段时间没有被大量更新了，所以它可能已经过时了，但它仍然是一个可行的工具。
The 280 North guys don't seem to work for motorola anymore (boucher at least works for stripe now) and all work on Atlas has stopped.
280名北方人似乎不再为摩托罗拉工作了(鲍彻至少现在为stripe工作了)，所有关于Atlas的工作都已经停止。
The "officially recommended" solution seems to be XcodeCapp Which, near as I can tell, is built into Cappuciono now. "Best of all, the new XcodeCapp application automatically creates an Xcode project out of your Cappuccino project and lets you place UI components with ease." (from over a year ago, when they could have mentioned Atlas.)
“正式推荐”的解决方案似乎是XcodeCapp，据我所知，XcodeCapp现在已经内置在Cappuciono中。“最棒的是，新的XcodeCapp应用程序会自动地从Cappuccino项目中创建一个Xcode项目，并允许您轻松放置UI组件。”(从一年多前开始，他们本可以提到阿特拉斯。)
Here's some references to it, including a recent saying it had been fixed for Xcode 4.4 (which was released this summer, with 4.5 being the current release.)
这里有一些对它的引用，包括最近说它已经修复了Xcode 4.4(它是今年夏天发布的，目前的版本是4.5)。
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/objectivej/mRMiLTP2Yh8
https://groups.google.com/forum/ # ! / objectivej / mRMiLTP2Yh8话题
Also, this next link is to a site with some great tutorials, and they assume you're using Xcode: http://www.cappuccino-project.org/learn/tutorials/advanced-hello-world-2/
另外，下一个链接是一个有一些很棒的教程的站点，他们假设您使用的是Xcode: http://www.cappuccino-project.org/learn/tutorials/advanced-hello-world-2/。
Here's an older blog post about the situation: http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2011/11/16/cappuccino-0-9-5/
这里有一篇关于这种情况的老博客:http://cappuccino.org/discuss/2011/11/16/cappuccino-0-9-5/
Which contains this in the comments: "Only the people who own the Atlas project can make any statements about it, and unfortunately we're just not those people. We're the Cappuccino core developers and we manage the open source project Cappuccino. Atlas was a commercial product created by a company that doesn't exist anymore.
在评论中包含了这一点:“只有拥有Atlas项目的人才能对此发表任何声明，不幸的是，我们并不是这些人。”我们是卡布奇诺的核心开发者，我们管理着开源项目卡布奇诺。Atlas是一家已经不复存在的公司创造的商业产品。
That said, don't worry about it, really. The Interface Builder integration is awesome and a very complete solution. And beyond that, you can write apps perfectly fine without any GUI editor at all. Or you could even write your own editor in Cappuccino. You've got a huge amount of possibilities and power at your disposal, so go out and build a cool app."
也就是说，别担心，真的。接口构建器集成非常棒，是一个非常完整的解决方案。除此之外，无需任何GUI编辑器，您就可以完美地编写应用程序。或者你甚至可以在卡布奇诺写自己的编辑。你有大量的可能性和力量在你的支配下，所以走出去，建立一个很酷的应用。
And also: "The new way of converting xibs to cibs automatically is the shiny new XcodeCapp application which you will find in /usr/local/narwhal/packages/cappuccino/support/XcodeCapp.app. That either struck us as an intuitive and easy to find path, or we didn't have time to make an easier one. ;)"
而且:“自动将xibs转换为cibs的新方法是闪亮的新XcodeCapp应用程序，您可以在/usr/local/narwhal/packages/cappuccino/ support/xcodecapp中找到它。”这要么让我们觉得这是一种直观的、容易找到的路径，要么我们没有时间做一个简单的路径。,)”
Also, this summary by Antoine Mercadal :
同时，安托万·麦卡达尔总结道:
"Atlas is a closed source software. It was originally built by the 280N guys, and you may or may not know the history, but the point is Atlas is more likely dead. We, the Cappuccino community, cannot do anything about it, unfortunately. Complaining about Atlas here is like complaining on the W3C website about IE: it doesn't make sense.
Atlas是一个开源软件。它最初是由280N人建造的，你可能知道也可能不知道历史，但重点是阿特拉斯很可能已经死了。不幸的是，我们，卡布奇诺社区，对此无能为力。在这里抱怨Atlas就像在W3C网站上抱怨IE:它没有意义。
I personally paid for the Atlas beta, and I develop all my interfaces (about 30 big cibs) with it. I was also very disappointed by the bad health of Atlas. That's the price you have to paid for using proprietary beta software: shit happens.I spent a week rebuilding all my UI under IB. It was a pain and I drank a lot of coffee during this week, but it actually really worth it. The result is just awesome.
我个人为Atlas测试版付费，我用它开发了我所有的界面(大约30个大型cibs)。阿特拉斯的健康状况也让我非常失望。这就是你使用专有测试软件所要付出的代价:该死的事情发生了。我花了一个星期在IB下重建我所有的UI，这很痛苦，这周我喝了很多咖啡，但这真的很值得。结果真是太棒了。
The support of Cappuccino by IB (with XcodeCapp) is now way beyond Atlas has never been. And the future is now guaranteed because XcodeCapp is a part of Cappuccino, nib2cib is a part of Cappuccino, both of them are Open Source, and nobody will never be able to "shut them down".
IB(与XcodeCapp)对卡布奇诺(Cappuccino)的支持，现在已远远超出Atlas的范畴。因为XcodeCapp是卡布奇诺的一部分，nib2cib是卡布奇诺的一部分，两者都是开源的，没有人能够“关闭他们”。
Atlas was a young product, Cappuccino was also a young product and like every community-based projects, all the actors/tools/members need to be "calibrated" and need to experiment several things. I think it's now done, and that's why we're approaching the 1.0.
Atlas是一个年轻的产品，Cappuccino也是一个年轻的产品，就像每个基于社区的项目一样，所有参与者/工具/成员都需要“校准”，并需要进行一些实验。我想现在已经完成了，这就是为什么我们接近1.0的原因。
This release is awesome, there are tons of fixes and new features, that is what we should talk about in this thread :)"
这个版本很棒，有大量的修复和新特性，这就是我们在这篇文章中应该讨论的:
#2
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Nib2Cib has existed since before Atlas. It lets you build your UI in interface builder, and has recently become much better. The latest version of Capp includes a tool that automatically runs the converter for you when you save a xib/nib.
Nib2Cib在阿特拉斯之前就存在了。它允许您在interface builder中构建UI，并且最近变得更好了。Capp的最新版本包含一个工具，当您保存一个xib/nib时，它会自动为您运行转换器。