I work for a .NET/MSSQL shop that has trouble supporting customers running Novell, partially because we don't have Novell (or the money for it) and partially because we have no one with Novell experience. This question could easily be expanded to "How can we improve our support of technology X when we don't have technology X?" Obviously, I expect someone to say "it is easy to acquire the technology or someone with that kind of experience," but keep in mind I'm just a developer, not the development manager or someone with power over the purse strings. I looked for a Novell server virtual appliance (though I'm not sure "Novell server" is what I should be looking for) but didn't find much on VMware's website.
我在一个.NET / MSSQL商店工作,这个商店在支持运行Novell的客户方面遇到了麻烦,部分原因是我们没有Novell(或者它的钱),部分原因是我们没有Novell的经验。这个问题可以很容易地扩展到“当我们没有X技术时,我们如何才能提高对技术X的支持?”显然,我希望有人说“很容易获得技术或有这种经验的人”,但请记住,我只是一名开发人员,而不是开发经理或掌管钱包的人。我找了一个Novell服务器虚拟设备(虽然我不确定“Novell服务器”是我应该寻找的)但在VMware的网站上找不到多少。
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There is a 60 day evaluation trial of Open Enterprise Server 2 available (requires free registration). If you install it in a VM, there's nothing stopping you from reinstalling it after 60 days (well except licence).
有一个60天的Open Enterprise Server 2评估试用版(需要免费注册)。如果您将其安装在虚拟机中,那么在60天之后没有什么能阻止您重新安装它(除了许可证之外)。
But you will need someone good with Linux to handle this (and preferably good with this precise technology). In a MS shop this might be a problem.
但是你需要一个善于使用Linux的人来处理这个问题(最好是使用这种精确的技术)。在MS商店,这可能是个问题。
The easiest solution would be to outsource this - have some external techs test your software for compatibility. If you find out you are paying too much - hire someone who knows this software stack.
最简单的解决方案是外包 - 让一些外部技术人员测试您的软件的兼容性。如果你发现你支付的费用太多 - 聘请知道这个软件堆栈的人。
You can't support something if you don't test against it. And you can't test against something you don't know.
如果你不对它进行测试,你就无法支持。你无法测试你不知道的东西。
#2
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There used to be some relatively cheap developers network which we used to belong to before the Novell questions all whithered and died away (famous last words, now I bet we will get one tomorrow), there is never any substitute for having the software / hardware, the only alternative is to write a test program and get your user to run it. I am intrigued though as to what problem you are getting, the main ones we got were file locks with Jet databases.
曾经有一些相对便宜的开发者网络,我们曾经属于Novell的问题,所有的问题都已白化并消失了(着名的最后一句话,现在我打赌我们明天会得到一个),从来没有任何替代品拥有软件/硬件,唯一的选择是编写测试程序并让用户运行它。我对你遇到的问题很感兴趣,我们得到的主要是带有Jet数据库的文件锁。
#3
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When you say running Novell, you need to consider what that means.
当你说运行Novell时,你需要考虑这意味着什么。
Most likely you mean either uses Netware servers, or use eDirectory for authentication.
您最有可能意味着要么使用Netware服务器,要么使用eDirectory进行身份验证。
With the release of Open Enterprise Server, Novell ported the core functionality of most of the Netware stack to run on SLES (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server). Thus OES runs on a Netware or Linux kernel. Services are much the same on both (there are some subtle differences that are probably outside the scope of this issue).
随着Open Enterprise Server的发布,Novell将大部分Netware堆栈的核心功能移植到SLES(SUSE Linux Enterprise Server)上运行。因此,OES在Netware或Linux内核上运行。两者的服务大致相同(有一些微妙的差异可能超出了本期的范围)。
If you mean Netware servers (or even OES Linux servers providing file shares) then it becomes an issue of how you access the file system. If it is simple reads and writes from a network drive, then there are two approaches.
如果您的意思是Netware服务器(甚至是提供文件共享的OES Linux服务器),那么它就成为您访问文件系统的一个问题。如果从网络驱动器进行简单的读写操作,则有两种方法。
1) Install the Novell Client on the box that needs the file system access so it can make an NCP (Novell Core Protocols) connection to volumes and data hosted there.
1)在需要文件系统访问权限的盒子上安装Novell Client,以便它可以与托管在那里的卷和数据建立NCP(Novell核心协议)连接。
2) Get the Novell server admin to enable CIFS/Samba (On Netware kernels, it is CIFS a not-ported-from-Samba implementation of CIFS. On OES Linux it is currently Samba using eDirectory for credentails. On the soon to be released OES 2 Sp1, on the Linux kernel, the Netware CIFS stack has been ported to Linux since it is much more performant and scalable, when compared to just Samba) on the server.
2)获取Novell服务器管理员以启用CIFS / Samba(在Netware内核上,CIFS是CIFS的一个未移植的Samba实现。在OES Linux上,它当前是Samba,使用eDirectory获取凭证。很快就会发布OES 2 Sp1,在Linux内核上,Netware CIFS堆栈已经移植到Linux,因为它与服务器上的Samba相比具有更高的性能和可扩展性。
More likely however you mean eDirectory is used for Authentication. If that is the case, just pretend it is an LDAP directory and you should be pretty much fine.
但更有可能的意思是eDirectory用于身份验证。如果是这种情况,只是假装它是一个LDAP目录,你应该很好。
eDirectory is cross platform, and runs on Windows, Netware, Linux (SLES and Red Hat at least), Solaris, AIX, and HPUX. It is practically indistinguishable which platform it is running on, so whatever you have in house expertise on the core OS, install an eDirectory instance on it, set up a test tree, and you can test your authentication code against it fairly easily.
eDirectory是跨平台的,可在Windows,Netware,Linux(至少SLES和Red Hat),Solaris,AIX和HPUX上运行。它在运行的平台上几乎无法区分,因此无论您拥有核心操作系统的内部专业知识,在其上安装eDirectory实例,设置测试树,您都可以非常轻松地测试您的身份验证代码。
There should be a free 250,000 user license available for just eDirectory for Developers still. (In fact I do not think they even bother asking for licenses for just eDirectory. The add on products require licensing. OES requires a license to access file shares or shared printers. Identity Manager (IDM) is bundled with almost any other Novell product license, but only for use with the bundled drivers (AD, eDir, Notes, Exchange) the rest require licensing.
应该只有eDirectory for Developers可以免费获得250,000个用户许可证。 (事实上,我认为他们甚至不打算只为eDirectory申请许可证。添加产品需要许可.OES需要许可证才能访问文件共享或共享打印机.Identity Manager(IDM)几乎与任何其他Novell产品许可证捆绑在一起,但仅适用于捆绑驱动程序(AD,eDir,Notes,Exchange),其余需要许可。
Hope that helps. If you are looking for pointers and beginners guides, there is a huge amount of content at Novell Cool Solutions.
希望有所帮助。如果您正在寻找指南和初学者指南,Novell Cool Solutions会提供大量内容。
If you have a specific problem let me know and I will see if I can help out.
如果您有特定问题,请告诉我,我会看看是否可以提供帮助。
#1
2
There is a 60 day evaluation trial of Open Enterprise Server 2 available (requires free registration). If you install it in a VM, there's nothing stopping you from reinstalling it after 60 days (well except licence).
有一个60天的Open Enterprise Server 2评估试用版(需要免费注册)。如果您将其安装在虚拟机中,那么在60天之后没有什么能阻止您重新安装它(除了许可证之外)。
But you will need someone good with Linux to handle this (and preferably good with this precise technology). In a MS shop this might be a problem.
但是你需要一个善于使用Linux的人来处理这个问题(最好是使用这种精确的技术)。在MS商店,这可能是个问题。
The easiest solution would be to outsource this - have some external techs test your software for compatibility. If you find out you are paying too much - hire someone who knows this software stack.
最简单的解决方案是外包 - 让一些外部技术人员测试您的软件的兼容性。如果你发现你支付的费用太多 - 聘请知道这个软件堆栈的人。
You can't support something if you don't test against it. And you can't test against something you don't know.
如果你不对它进行测试,你就无法支持。你无法测试你不知道的东西。
#2
3
There used to be some relatively cheap developers network which we used to belong to before the Novell questions all whithered and died away (famous last words, now I bet we will get one tomorrow), there is never any substitute for having the software / hardware, the only alternative is to write a test program and get your user to run it. I am intrigued though as to what problem you are getting, the main ones we got were file locks with Jet databases.
曾经有一些相对便宜的开发者网络,我们曾经属于Novell的问题,所有的问题都已白化并消失了(着名的最后一句话,现在我打赌我们明天会得到一个),从来没有任何替代品拥有软件/硬件,唯一的选择是编写测试程序并让用户运行它。我对你遇到的问题很感兴趣,我们得到的主要是带有Jet数据库的文件锁。
#3
3
When you say running Novell, you need to consider what that means.
当你说运行Novell时,你需要考虑这意味着什么。
Most likely you mean either uses Netware servers, or use eDirectory for authentication.
您最有可能意味着要么使用Netware服务器,要么使用eDirectory进行身份验证。
With the release of Open Enterprise Server, Novell ported the core functionality of most of the Netware stack to run on SLES (SUSE Linux Enterprise Server). Thus OES runs on a Netware or Linux kernel. Services are much the same on both (there are some subtle differences that are probably outside the scope of this issue).
随着Open Enterprise Server的发布,Novell将大部分Netware堆栈的核心功能移植到SLES(SUSE Linux Enterprise Server)上运行。因此,OES在Netware或Linux内核上运行。两者的服务大致相同(有一些微妙的差异可能超出了本期的范围)。
If you mean Netware servers (or even OES Linux servers providing file shares) then it becomes an issue of how you access the file system. If it is simple reads and writes from a network drive, then there are two approaches.
如果您的意思是Netware服务器(甚至是提供文件共享的OES Linux服务器),那么它就成为您访问文件系统的一个问题。如果从网络驱动器进行简单的读写操作,则有两种方法。
1) Install the Novell Client on the box that needs the file system access so it can make an NCP (Novell Core Protocols) connection to volumes and data hosted there.
1)在需要文件系统访问权限的盒子上安装Novell Client,以便它可以与托管在那里的卷和数据建立NCP(Novell核心协议)连接。
2) Get the Novell server admin to enable CIFS/Samba (On Netware kernels, it is CIFS a not-ported-from-Samba implementation of CIFS. On OES Linux it is currently Samba using eDirectory for credentails. On the soon to be released OES 2 Sp1, on the Linux kernel, the Netware CIFS stack has been ported to Linux since it is much more performant and scalable, when compared to just Samba) on the server.
2)获取Novell服务器管理员以启用CIFS / Samba(在Netware内核上,CIFS是CIFS的一个未移植的Samba实现。在OES Linux上,它当前是Samba,使用eDirectory获取凭证。很快就会发布OES 2 Sp1,在Linux内核上,Netware CIFS堆栈已经移植到Linux,因为它与服务器上的Samba相比具有更高的性能和可扩展性。
More likely however you mean eDirectory is used for Authentication. If that is the case, just pretend it is an LDAP directory and you should be pretty much fine.
但更有可能的意思是eDirectory用于身份验证。如果是这种情况,只是假装它是一个LDAP目录,你应该很好。
eDirectory is cross platform, and runs on Windows, Netware, Linux (SLES and Red Hat at least), Solaris, AIX, and HPUX. It is practically indistinguishable which platform it is running on, so whatever you have in house expertise on the core OS, install an eDirectory instance on it, set up a test tree, and you can test your authentication code against it fairly easily.
eDirectory是跨平台的,可在Windows,Netware,Linux(至少SLES和Red Hat),Solaris,AIX和HPUX上运行。它在运行的平台上几乎无法区分,因此无论您拥有核心操作系统的内部专业知识,在其上安装eDirectory实例,设置测试树,您都可以非常轻松地测试您的身份验证代码。
There should be a free 250,000 user license available for just eDirectory for Developers still. (In fact I do not think they even bother asking for licenses for just eDirectory. The add on products require licensing. OES requires a license to access file shares or shared printers. Identity Manager (IDM) is bundled with almost any other Novell product license, but only for use with the bundled drivers (AD, eDir, Notes, Exchange) the rest require licensing.
应该只有eDirectory for Developers可以免费获得250,000个用户许可证。 (事实上,我认为他们甚至不打算只为eDirectory申请许可证。添加产品需要许可.OES需要许可证才能访问文件共享或共享打印机.Identity Manager(IDM)几乎与任何其他Novell产品许可证捆绑在一起,但仅适用于捆绑驱动程序(AD,eDir,Notes,Exchange),其余需要许可。
Hope that helps. If you are looking for pointers and beginners guides, there is a huge amount of content at Novell Cool Solutions.
希望有所帮助。如果您正在寻找指南和初学者指南,Novell Cool Solutions会提供大量内容。
If you have a specific problem let me know and I will see if I can help out.
如果您有特定问题,请告诉我,我会看看是否可以提供帮助。